Starfighter Cockpits

Since a Starfighter is almost 17 meters long, it will be difficult for everybody to have its own private Starfighter parked in his home. Some people found the solution by building up a complete cockpit section instead. Surprisingly more and more people are interested. Beneath an overview of all private cockpits which we have discovered sofar...

REAL AIRCRAFT COCKPITS

CF-104 serial 104832 (c/n 1132) R-832 RDAF

Danish Air Force R-832 was scrapped early October 2006 in a village called Bjerringbro. A cockpit collector from Norway, Jens Rino Haugen, bought the forward fuselage part and brougth it to Grimstad, Norway where it arrived in November 2006. Jens is very busy getting the cockpit complete again and is also looking for a complete canopy. In between he has replaced the broken glass by plexy-glass as an interim solution.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photos were taken in Grimstad by Tom Svendsen on 13 January 2007 and the lower photo by Tom Svenden on 16 March 2008. Inside the ejectionseat from a Saab Draken has been mounted.

R-832

F-104G D-8256 (c/n 8256) KLu

At Volkel Air Base a few Starfighters have been used for spareparts while building up the preserved D-8312. One of the victims was D-8256. However they remained the cockpit section and decided to use it for demonstration purposes, like for example during the Dutch Air Force open house in 2007.

 

 

The photo shows the cockpit being displayed during the open house at Volkel Air Base in June 2007.

F-104G FX-70 (c/n 9119) Belgium Air Force

Currently owned since October 24th, 2009 by Wouter Heines in Kessel, Southern Holland. It will be used to be converted into a complete cockpit.

This photo taken by Wouter Heines at Kessel in October 2009.

FX70

F-104G serial 62-12238 (c/n 4040) 238 RNorAF

On 17 January 1978 Norwegian Starfighter "238" enountered a landing accident and was withdrawn from use. It continued as instructional airframe from 10 October 1978 at the LTB school at Kjevik.In 1984 it went to a private owner who decided to not want it and the aircraft went to a scrapdealer 40km NE of Oslo in 1985. The aircraft was bought by a large scrapdealer in Hokksund 65 km SE of Oslo in 1985 .Jens Rino Haugen managed to buy the cockpit section for his private collection may.1985 at the scrapdealer in Hokksund. Rest of the aircraft was scrapped there in may/june that year. Jens sold the cockpit in 1989 to the Norwegian Starfighter enthousiast and IFS member Erling Revheim in his hometown Bergen, Norway.
Also parts have been used from the Starfighter 20+95 (fake serialled "24+76") which was scrapped at scrapdealer North Schrott at Flensburg.

 

 

The photos were taken by Jens Rino Haugen a number of years ago when the cockpit was in his possesion.. Photo on top was taken at Setermoen in 1986-1988 period. The lower photo was taken at Erling Revheims home , at earliest 1991.

F-104G serial 20+64 (c/n 2075) GAF

On 22 June 1992 the F-104G 20+64 arrived at Erding and it was assigned to the DFL group for display purposes. In July 1993 it was clear that the group only needed the cockpit since that was the only thing left at Erding. It had been cut from the 20+64. On 13 July 1996 it was seen again on an open house at Roth but it was stored inside a container. It was last noticed during a family day at Koln-Wahn mid August 2007.

 

 

 

 

 


The photos were taken by Michael Riedesser. On top the fuselage inside the big hangar at Erding on 16 July 1993. The second photo shows the big container which is used to travel the fuselage to various location for display purposes. This photo was taken at Roth, where the fuselage was demonstrated on 13 July 1993.

F-104G serial 20+87 (c/n 6604) GAF

The ex AWX Starfighter 20+87 was withdrawn from use mid 70s and was seen till late 70s on the dump at Erding. Subsequently the aircraft was scrapped but the forward fuselage section was saved for DASA. They decided to use it for their travelling exhibition. For this purpose it was seen in Manching for example in 1993 and in Ummendorf in September 1999. it was last noted Eggebek in 2003. In March 2008 people at Manching stated that the cockpit has been given away. They had no idea where it went....

The photo show the forward section of 20+87 during one of the exhibitions of DASA. You still can see the "7" of the serial. Photo was taken at Eggebeck in 2003.

F-104G serial 20+90 (c/n 6607) GAF

German Starfighter 20+90 was one of the many AWX Starfighters which were phased out early 70s due to the replacement by the F-4 Phantom. This particular Starfighter arrived at Erding on 20 February 1975 to be put on storage but soon after it was scrapped. However the forward fuselage section with cockpit was saved and put on display inside the Air Force museum (Deutche Museum) in Munchen (Munich). It was first noted in the late 80s and can still be seen inside the museum today.

 

 


The photo showing how the cockpit is used, to demonstrate how the ejection seat works, has been taken by Mark Wassenaar on 26 September 2006.

F-104G serial 21+26 (c/n 6687) GAF

German Navy Starfighter 21+26 was brought over to Fassberg for instructional purposes in 1992 or early 1993. It was used for Battle Damage Repair training and soon after, December 1994, it was declared to be scrapped or sold via VEBEG. Starfighter enthousiast and IFS member Matthias Wessels bought the front part of the aircraft and restored it completely. The rest of the aircraft was scrapped in December 1994. In January 1995 it could be found inside his living room!!! Currently Matthias lives in Gronau, Germany and still owns this cockpit as well as a cockpit of an ex RAF Phantom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photos were taken at Gronau on 5 November 2006 by an unknown photographer. It shows the front section of the ex 21+26 NAVY Starfighter.

F-104G serial 21+83 (c/n 7052) GAF

German Air Force Starfighter 21+83 had been stored for quite some years at Manching. In the summer of 2007 it was noticed for the first time that the cockpit section was the only part left of the aircraft. It can be found inside a glass room in the canteen of the Wilhelm Frankl Kaserne at Neuburg. It is unknown when it arrived at Neuburg and when this cockpit was put on display.

 

The photo was taken at Neuburg in July 2007 by Mark Wassenaar.

F-104G serial 22+46 (c/n 7124) GAF

On 29 January 1986 Starfighter 22+46 was phased out within the Memmingen based JBG34. It was transferred to LWS11 at Manching and in February 1988 it was withdrawn from use. Soon it was gone and in 1991 the aft fuselage was spotted at Wittmund. On that airbase also the forward fuselage was seen which had been put on display inside the JG71 pilots room. At least this cockpit was seen there in 2003 but now it is gone. We are still wondering what happened to this cockpit. Most likely it ended up with someone working on the airbase at his home. Who knows more????

The photos shows 22+46 still operational at Beja on 24 October 1984.

F-104G serial 24+11 (c/n 8151) GAF

This forward fuselage with cockpit belongs to the wonderful collection at the Museum Flugsicherheit und Rettung e.V. located at Baden Airpark (Adres Summerside Avenue, Gebäude C 29 (Shelter) at Rheinmünster.

The PR Office (Stabsfelbwebel Schauf) at Buchel AB stated that 24+11 was cut up around 2002 and this was noticed by himself. The cockpit was prepared as a mobile presentation cockpit and used by JaboG 33 for several years. On April 29, 2008 it was handed over on loan to the museum in Baden Airpark..

The museum website shows a wonderful 360 degrees 3D motion page for the cockpit. To experience this wonderful look please go to this link.

 

The photo shows the cockpit during a visit on 4 February 2010. (Mark Wassenaar)

24+11

F-104G serial 24+49 ???? ( c/n 8193 ??? ) GAF

In June 1996 a forward fuselage was seen on display at Neuburg. It was stated that this cockpit belonged to 104 enthousiast and IFS member Josef Voggenreiter.

Nobody knew the real identity but within some German Aviation Groups soon it was speculated being from F-104G Starfighter 24+49. That particular aircraft was withdrawn from use in 1991 and was seen as BDRT aircraft for a few years at Bremgarten (till 1992) and at Pferdsfeld (till end 1993). It was never seen anymore since late 1993. This mentioned cockpit section appeared for the first time at the Air Show at Neuburg in June 1996. So this could fit very well.
The serial applied on the forward fuselage should represent "22+03" and Josef told that he obtained this section in a very bad shape mid 90s and nothing inside could tell the real identity.

Currently the cockpit section can be found as part of the large and very beautiful museum collection of Josef Voggenreiter at his hometown Niederalteich.

On 7 June 2008 we did a major inspection of the cockpit but sadly we failed to find any confirming identity. We found a few numbers like 7075 and 6193 but this does not say anything. Who knows more????

 

The top photo was taken at Neuburg AB in June 1996 by Michael Riedesser. The 2nd photo was taken 7th June 2008 inside the nice Gerhard Neumann Museum at Niederalteich, by Harry Prins.

 

Niederalteich

F-104G serial 24+89 (c/n 8239) GAF

Starfighter 24+89 ended its career at Fassberg and was sold als scrap airframe to Piet Smedts in Baarlo in October 1999. There it was used for parts needed to build up other Starfighters. The forward fuselage area was saved and sold to Leon Sleegers, currently living in Helvoirt, Holland, late 2003, who is busy to create a full active cockpit out of it.

 

 

The photo, taken by Wouter Heines, shows the cockpit of 24+89 this summer 2008. It can be clearly seen that Leon is very busy with getting this cockpit completed.

24+89

F-104G serial 25+07 (c/n 8265) GAF

Starfighter 25+07 has been used for many years as instructional airframe with fake serial "75+00" until its retirement in Jever in 1989. That year it was scrapped but its forward fuselage section was saved. After the aft section was scrapped the cockpit was transported to the OSL at Furstenfeldbruck for display duties. In 2008 and 2009 it could be found stored temporary at Berlin Gatow but in April 2010 it was back in Furstenfeldbruck again on display at the Wehrgeschichtliche Lehr-sammlung (WGLS) der Offizierschule der Luftwaffe (OSLw),

Photo shows a wondeful photo of the cockpit section taken by Klaus Kropf on May 21st, 2010 at Furstenfeldbruck.

25+07

F-104G serial 25+29 (c/n 8306) GAF

After being phased out Starfighter 25+29 ended at the premises of TSLw3 at Fassberg. It was used as fire-practise airframe. It was last seen at Fassberg in December 1999. In March 2002 it appeared inside the Werningerode Air Museum. However most of the aircraft was gone, only the forward fuselage section was available for display.

 


The photo was taken by Mark Wassenaar inside the museum of Werningerode in 2006. Note on other forward fuselage next to it which is discussed also on this page (25+40)

F-104G serial 25+30 (c/n 8307) GAF

After being stored for a while at Manching Starfighter 25+30 arrived in Hopsten AB on 3 July 1989 for ABDR instructions. Officially it was scrapped at Hopsten a few years later in July 1992. In March 1993 the forward fuselage was found back inside the "Traditions Room" at the Air Base squadron premises. In 2005 it was gone and in June 2006 it was found back in the village Buchholz, owned by Uwe Steenweg. It is now part of his aviation collection.

Latest status (Sept 2008): The restoration is still ongoing. The status is now, that the cockpit is almost complete ( some missing parts are there but not yet installed). Last actions where the installation of a
Lockheed C-2 ejection seat and the final installation of the canopy. There is many more to do like some repair on the skin and maybe the paintjob but that is all pending on the weather.

 

 

 

 

 

The photos were received from Uwe Steenweg, current owner of this nice looking cockpit and seen on one of this photos. The first photo shows Uwe Steenweg at Bucholz on 8 June 2006. The second photo shows the result of hard work, as it was in November 2007.

F-104G serial 25+40 (c/n 8327) GAF

An other forward fuselage / cockpit at Wernigerode Air Museum is retrieved from Starfighter 25+40 which was scrapped after being a ABDR airframe at Fassberg till at least early 2000. The museum has given the cockpit a lof of attention and now it is completely working!!
It is meant to show the visitors of the museum how a real cockpit looks like when it is working..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photo was taken by Mark Wassenaar at the Werningerode Museum in 2006. It is a 100% electrically working cockpit section meant for displaying the cockpit functionality to visitors of the museum.

F-104G serial 26+17 (c/n 9162) GAF

cockpit can be found with a private collector near Moers (German Ruhr area) since august 2008.

 

 

 

This photo was taken by Roger Seroo on 5 January 2008 when the cockpit section was in storage somewhere at Niederrhein before being shipped to Germany

26+17

F-104G serial 26+20 (c/n 9168) GAF

SABCA build F-104G 26+20 ended its career at Lechfeld as ABDR training airframe and after it was not needed anymore it was scrapped around 1999. In 2003 the forward fuselage section was found back in Augsburg. It was owned by Kai Sporhaze who has added this cockpit to his aviation collection and working on it. It is located within the EADS premises.

 

Since we do not have photos to publish we show here a picture of 26+20 while it was still flying. Here it is a seen at Beja AB on 23 October 1984.

F-104G serial 26+25 (c/n 9177) GAF

An other aircraft suffering damage due to ABDR training was F-104G 26+25. Also with the aircraft the forward fuselage was cut and saved for display duties.

Late 90s the aircraft was scrapped at Diepholz where it was used for ABDR training and 3 meter of the forward fuselage was saved. It was transported to a new owner in Kurten, near Koln.

In 2000 it moved to Neugablonz, near Kaufbeuren and was cut to 1,8 meter length. From that moment on it was owned by Thomas Michel who spend a lot of hours to get back in a very good shape. Currently it has serial "JA+234" as AWX cockpit, already since November 2005.

On top a photo of the aircraft landing at Norvenich when still flying around and a photo of the cockpit from Thomas Michel (Collection Ton vd Zeeuw)
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TF-104G serial 27+26 (c/n 5727) GAF

On 10 August 1984 two-seat Starfighter 27+26 run off the runway at homebase Memmingen and was declared written-off. The only pilot Hptm Hans Joachim Zabler ejected safely. In the mid-eighties the aircraft went to Leipheim lateron to become a gateguard. After Leipheim closed the aircraft was transported back to Memmingen around 1991. It started a career as BDRT instructional airframe and was severly damaged.
In November 1997 the aircraft was brought over to a scrapdealer in Memmingen. A company in Tubingen got the airframe (or what was left of it) that same month and cut the forward fuselage probably because they were ordered to. Soon after this part was transported back to Memmingen Air Base where it can be found preserved. Last noted 11 July 2005.

 

 

 

 

 

The photos show the TF-104G but actually only 1 seat left. at Memmingen where it is used for display purposes. The photos were taken by Michael Schneider around March 2006.

TF-104G serial 28+01 (c/n 5931) GAF

On 26 April 1989 Starfighter 28+01 crashed after it suffered problems with its undercarriage during touch and go training at home-base Manching. Both pilots OTL Reiner Karlstedt and Hptm Michael Reinhold ejected safely but were slightly injured. Lateron the frontsection of the aircraft (including cockpit) was brought over to the Gatow museum for display purposes where it was first noted preserved late August 1997 and last noted in 2001.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photo on top was taken in May 1985 when 28+01 was still flying around. Strange to see the cockpit section cut from the aircraft on photo 1 and now preserved inside the museum at Berlin-Gatow. Photo of the cockpit was taken in 2004, 19 years later. Today it has been repainted to represent a Luke AFB 69 TFTS Starfighter cockpit inside a Luke AFB rememberance corner inside the museum as shown on the 3rd photo taken by Roger Seroo on 26 July 2007

F-104G Unknown id, Niederalteich, Germany

In June 2008 an F-104 cockpit was found inside the Gerhard Neumann Museum at Niederalteich.

The owner (Josef Voggenreiter) stated that basically most of the cockpit came from Lechfeld and some parts he added by handcrafting some parts. Inside the section nothing was found which could point towards a certain 104 Starfighter.

Does someone know more about this cockpit?.

 

 

This photo of the ex-Lechfeld cockpit was taken inside the Gerhard Neumann museum in Niederalteich on 7 June 2008.

Niederalteich

F-104J serial 36-8538 (c/n 3038) JASDF

A cockpit of this Starfighter can be found inside the Aviation Reference Hall at Nyutabaru AFB. It was seen inside the collection for the first time in 2003 and can still be found today.

 

The photo was found on the internet. The photo was taken in 2007.

36-8538

F-104S/ASA-M serial MM6714/9-51 (c/n 1014) AMI

While the last operational Starfighters in Italy flew their last missions, aircraft MM6714 had already been withdrawn from use and was waiting for its future at the dump of its last operational homebase Grosseto. In October 2004 it was transported to Grazzanise and it was parked on the CFE flightline. On 9 December 2005 it was officially declared CFE-wfu and that same month it was cut-up and partly scrapped. The forward fuselage was saved and brought over to the Italian air museum in Vigna Di Valle where it arrived later that month. It can still be found preserved today. It is interesting to see that the fuselage received code "9-51" which replaced the original code "4-11". Its CFE plate came from aircraft MM6741.


The photo shows the cockpit section with serial "9-51" on a frame which was taken at Vigna Di Valle, on 11 December 2005.

 

F-104S/ASA serial MM6820/51-07 (c/n 1120) AMI

F-104S-ASA (c/n 1120) MM6820 "51-07" , Italian Air Force, is currently preserved on the roof of the Gigole Clothing store in the via Marco Biagi at Chairavalle. it has tail-section from MM6821 and nose-section from MM6785. It has been cut just behind the cockpit and this makes it possible to display the cockpit section inside the building and the rest of the Starfighter on the roof. It looks like it just flew into the building.

See photo of the rest of the aircraft on the roof here.

 

 

 

 

 

The photo was taken by Otger van der Kooij during his visit on 23 August 2008.

MM6820

F-104S/ASA serial unknown AMI

In January 2009 a special F-104 cockpit has been revealed at dell’Istituto Scienze Militari Aeronautiche, located at Firenze. The cockpit section is from an unidentified aircraft and painted into the famous red 9-99 colors. It is not coming from the real 9-99 which can still be found at Grazzanise AB. The cockpit was revealed by commander of the institute Brig General Settimo Caputo.It is interesting to notice that the Pratica project refuelling probe has been added to the cockpit.

The photo was taken by the Italian Air Force and published on the internet on Januari 21st, 2009.

9-99

Unidentified, F-104 two-seater, USA

In the US an unidentified two-seater cockpit has been discovered a number of years ago on a scrapyard. It looks like this cockpit has been used for testing ejection seats. Currently it is owned by an aviation enthousiast but we do not know what he is planning to do with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photos show a little bit strange and star-wars alike construction of a two-seat Starfighter. Very likely a scrapped F-104D cockpit section. Who knows where and when these photos have been taken? And of course who knows its identity???

OWN MADE COCKPITS and LOCKHEED FLIGHT SIMULATOR COCKPITS

Lockheed flight simulator Belgium Air Force F-104G

At Kleine Brogel AB in Belgium a forward fuselage had been converted into a fundamental airframe for an F-104G flight simulator. It is not confirmed that it came from a withdrawn Belgium Starfighter It was last noted at Kleine Brogel in 1991 and in 1997 it was sold to Theo Stoelinga in the Netherlands.
Theo, living in Waddinxveen, has been interested in F-104 cockpit instruments and avionics for decades and has build a complete cockpit structure of a F-104G Starfighter. He also managed to get lamps etc working again which gives a nice static display and was already looking for a fuselage to build everything in to.

 

 

 

 

 

The first photo was taken during an open house at Kleine Brogel on 1 September 1991. It shows the standard construction offered by Lockheed for their flight simulation systems. It makes a wonderfull framework to build up a home-operating F-104 cockpit system. Its current owner Theo Stoelinga bought it and transformed it completely to a Dutch Air Force Starfighter cockpit. All instruments are working again and the result is awesome!!

Lockheed flight simulator Italian Air Force F-104G

In Italy a guy managed to get a forward F-104 fuselage of a flight simulator and has parked it inside his garage or big room. He is planning to make it complete again and use it for display purposes. It was first noticed in April 2002. It has the nose radome of aircraft MM6821

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photos show the flight simulator which is owned by an Italian collector and were taken around April 2002.

Canadair flight simulator Danish Air Force CF-104

The Danish Air Force bought a simulator from Canadair in 1964.
The simulator was air freighted to Denmark, summer 1964 and was used learning pilots until in 1985/86. Then this cockpit section were given to RDAF historical collection currently displayed at Egeskov Veteran museum (Egeskov Castle), Denmark, likely since early 90s.
It was first noticed around 1994 and still there in 2003.

 

Photo was taken by Tom Svendsen during his museum visit in May 2008.

Egeskov

Canadair flight simulator Norwegian Air Force CF-104

The Norwegian Air Force bought the same simulators from Canadair as used in Denmark. They were used from 1964 till 1981. One simulator was preserved inside the Air Museum in Bodo. The simulator carried a very US alike nosecone because the original radome was too long and taking too much space.

One of the remaining U2 alike cones was later seen on one of the decoy Starfighters at Bodo and was used for a cold-war movie.

 

The photo was taken by Tom Svendsen inside the Bodo Air Museum during a visit on 5 May 2007.

Lockheed flight simulator German Air Force F-104G

An old German Air Force flight simulator cockpit can be found today at Berlin Gatow near Museum hangar 7.

 

The photo shows the cockpit at Gatow taken recently by Mark Wassenaar.

Lockheed flight simulator Hellenic Air Force F-104G

Someone in Greece owns a forward fuselage section of an F-104G flight simulator from the Hellenic Air Force. He has build up the cockpit again and keeps the static cockpit at home. It was seen for the first time in March 2002.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The photos show the flight simulator which is owned by an Greece collector and were taken around April 2002. It looks like it need quite a number of hours to be worked on before it looks a nice cockpit section again...

Leon Sleegers, The Netherlands

Leon has been interested in Starfighter avionics and jet helmets. He choose to build up cockpit blocks without using a cockpit itself. The several parts are displayed on special occasions and can be found inside his private collection. All lights, instruments etc are working.
Late 2003 Leon managed to buy a forward fuselage section and it is very likely that he will use parts of his cockpit collection to build up this display fuselage (See aircraft c/n 8239 above)..
A lot of these panels have been obtained from the ex "D-5804".

 

 

 

 

The photos show the display frames of several cockpit areas. All instruments and clocks are actively operating. It is very likely that a part of his collection will be used to build up the recently obtained forward fuselage and cockpit section of aircraft 24+89.

Michael Schneider, Germany

Michael is member of the group which preserves and restores former German Air Force fighter aircraft at former Airbase Memmingen. At home he once started a self-made cockpit section of an F-104G. The frame is made by himself but all the panels and components are 100% original F-104.

 

 

 

The photo shows the cockpit of Michael and was taken in November 2009.

Michael Schneider

Buckhard Fiebig, Germany

Buckhard has been collecting all kind of avionics and avionics parts of Starfighters to build up a complete cockpit.

 

 

 

 

 

The photo shows Buckhard Fiebig in his Starfighter room showing his own build cockpit. All instruments should be working now. Photo is obtained from Buckhard and obtained via Ton vd Zeeuw.

Unknown, Germany

Someone in Germany build up an F-104G cockpit at his home and build some kind of cockpit construction around the framework. It was first noticed in April 2002.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The photos show a cockpit of someone in Germany. Who knows the owner??

Werner Türk, Germany

Werner Türk collected Starfighter cockpit instrument and more for lots of years. In between he has build a nice cockpit section and is still busy getting it more complete.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting playing ground inside the home of Werner Türk.

 

Werner Turk

Werner Turk

MBB test cockpit for testing Martin Baker Ejection Seats.

Where did it come from and where is it now?

This forward fuselage was modified for high speed zero-zero level ejectionseat testing by Martin Baker company in the UK late 60s. The MB company stated: The fuselage came from Germany. It went back to Germany right after the testing had been completed. The company carried out 4 x 600kt twin seat tests to demonstrate the canopy jettison worked at high speed. Luckily it all worked and Martin Baker received the contract to retrofit the German aircraft.

We believe it could not have been an ex German F-104F nor TF-104G so it must have been an ex USAF F-104B or D aircraft cockpit section. But shall we ever know??

MBB

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